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Wisdom of the Bhagavad Gita (Part 4)

Narissa Moeller August 29, 2020

It would seem that in chapter 13 v 12 where Lord Krishna says, “param brahman “, the highest brahman, is neither existence nor non-existence, that the door to consciousness development is now closed. From a state of consciousness it is. However, Lord Krishna continues, in chapter 15 v 16 for yet another 5 verse run. Chapter 15 v 16, “There are two “purusau” in the world, the perishable and the imperishable...”

Chapter 15 v 17, “But the highest (uttamas) purusas is another, called param atma (supreme Self). Who entering the three worlds as Isvarah, supports them (the perishable and imperishable).

Wow, we are definitely in deep waters here. We had the perishable and imperishable but now we have Isvarah who appears to be an overlord that supports the previous two.

Chapter 15 v 18, “Since I transcend (atitas) the perishable an am higher than the imperishable... I’m celebrated (prathitas) as purusottamah (the supreme purusa)”.

“Higher than the imperishable”? This is incomprehensible. I mean, think about it. How can one be higher than the imperishable. Like, where is that state? Just feeling into this reality causes one to be completely without foundation. Talk about true non-attachment.

Verses like this can’t simply be thought of. They must be taken into the heart and deeply felt.

Lord Krishna, in the form of Vishnu, Ishvarah (param atma), and now Purusottamah, the ultimate (uttamas) Purusa, is to be known through a perfect blend of mind, heart and soul.

Chapter 15 v 19, “He who, undeluded, unconfused, knows Me, as Purusottamam, he, sarvavit (all-knowing, omniscient, omni-cognizant), bhajati (worships, loves) Me, with sarvabhavena (all, whole, entire being).

Again, as in chapter 13 v 18, a brilliant folding in of a statement of achievement with a compassionate invitation to join Him in a place (loka) which is higher than the imperishable or not existence nor non-existence. A place/state that is incomprehensible nothingness yet simultaneously full, leaving one wanting for nothing. :)

Chapter 15 v 20, “Thus this most secret doctrine has been taught by Me, O Arjuna; having awakened to this, a man should be (syat), buddhiman (wise, enlightened) with all duties fulfilled (krtakrtyas).

Amazing how Lord Krishna takes Arjuna from the highest of spiritual highs in the previous verse to, down-to-earth, in this verse creating linkage and practicality. Useful in this moment. True mastery.

So, from the seemingly impersonal state of param brahman in chapter 13 starting with verse 12 of "not existence nor non-existence" to the very personal state of purusottamah, "higher than the imperishable". I get a sense of initially knowing the Highest then stepping into the Highest. The knowledge in chapter 13 addresses the question of, What am I? While chapter 15 answers the question, Who am I? What vs Who. These are probably the two eternal questions posed by the true seeker. From the standpoint of God it may play out as - once the creation is complete (the what) the creator (the who) steps into their creation.

In someways this can be seen as the journey of the seeker but in a deeper context it’s our inevitable evolution. Where we feel our way, through the avenue of the heart, to a state of oneness with this divine entity, Krishna, Vishnu, Isvarah, Purusottamah and in so doing, step into, realize and become our destiny.

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Tags brahman, consciousness, development, heart, seeker, evolution, highestself, god
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Wisdom of the Bhagavad Gita (Part 1)

Narissa Moeller July 16, 2020

There are certain iconic verses in the Gita that serve as anchors of consciousness. Chapter 2 v 45, comes to mind, “Be without the three gunas...possessed of the Self (atmavan)”. Lord Krishna provides the first truly profound instruction to Arjuna. Allow your self Arjuna to be held, possessed by Atma, that which is beyond the world of thinking, the world of loss and gain, of cause and effect. That state of awareness that is pure consciousness in its own nature. That state that some refer to as the silent witness. Rest there Oh Arjuna.

Another iconic verse for me is found in chapter 6 v 32. Lord Krishna said, “He who sees evenness in everything... Is thought to be the highest yogi”.

There is a five verse run up to this verse starting with verse 28 and the “contact with Brahman”. Then to verse 29, the seeing of Self in all beings and all beings in the Self. Verse 30, seeing all things in Me (Krishna). Verse 31, the honoring of Me (Krishna) abiding in all beings. And finally, verse 32, seeing evenness in everything.

In my humble opinion I find this to be the end of the Gita in many ways. Since, we have been taken from seeing everything as Self, a very non-personal state. To seeing everything in Me, the Lord Krishna, a very personal state. To seeing everything as evenness, a non-personal and personal state combined. A state where the Self and devotion to God meet in such a way that perfect oneness is known. Where both the illumined individual and the universal God are inseparable. Could there be more?

I never thought so until my new iconic verse hit me.

In chapter 13 v 12 through 16, yet another five verse run, there appears to be yet another wrinkle. Verse 12 states that the highest (param) Brahman is (na sat) not existence. Nor (na asat) non-existence. Whoa, what have we here?

Some say its both, in an attempt to regain a consciousness foundation. But, Lord Krishna says very plainly that its neither.

Right here is why full enlightenment is said to be incomprehensible. Logical thinking will never be able to explain the state of full enlightenment. I love it. A reality that will always be a mystery.

These five verses go on with statements like, outside and inside beings, moving and not moving, far away and also near. Finally ending in verse 16 with, “This is to be known as the sustainer of beings, their devourer and creator”.

Now, that’s heavy.

My sense is, Lord Krishna has painted an impossible portrayal, leaving Arjuna and in turn all true seekers with only one alternative - Surrender. Surrender to the will of God. You are the actor as well as not the actor. So act.

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Tags BhagavadGita, consciousness, enlightenment, gunas, lordkrishna, arjuna, atma, brahman, truth, seeker, surrender, action

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